AGA victims asked for more money or court case will be dropped

Saturday, January 30, 2010

By ABAG

ABAG Protest

You may recall that an AGA victim was told that they had to appear in court on December 23rd 2009 (click here) or risk having their case dismissed. The person concerned is a victim of AGA’s double selling scam which was allegedly aided by a well known TRNC lawyer. With only two weeks notice the UK based victim had to provide hospital evidence as to why they could not be present in a TRNC court two days before Christmas.

If this was not enough to disturb their Christmas holiday what happened next certainly did. They had already lost their savings on a property they could not live in and now they were spending the last of their money trying to achieve justice in the TRNC courts. Earlier they had spent £500 paying for a bond which was supposedly insurance in case Gary Robb won the case and then, so close to receiving the judgement they were hoping for, the bombshell came. They were asked by their lawyers for another £1500!

When they paid for and signed a contract several years ago, they expected it to be readily enforced if broken. So when they discovered that it had been broken by AGA Development, because their house was double-sold, they expected something to be done about it. Court cases had been won but what they didn’t know was that TRNC lawyers don’t enforce judgements and even if they did enforce them they now realised that AGA Developments has no assets.

They could give up, but that would be saying goodbye to everything, surely they could at least be given the property they originally paid for, no matter what condition it was in? That was one of the reasons for their court case. But now they were being asked for £1500 STAMP DUTY! To make matters even worse, if that was possible, the duty was being charged on a ridiculous sum of £99,000 when the victim only paid £66,000, something they had told the lawyer on more than one occasion!

They also had evidence of three cases run by other lawyers of AGA victims where the contract stamp duty has not had to be asked to be paid and neither has money for a bond. They were beginning to believe they were being singled out, perhaps to get them to drop the case. First the Christmas court hearing and then when that failed to stop them there came a demand for more money.

It looks like the TRNC government will be paying in excess of £2m to cover the Orams couple’s case and yet they won’t even give the hundreds of AGA victims a minute of their time.

If you want to read the whole story, including the name of the lawyer then read it HERE.

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polly

30/01/2010 at 11:29 am

TAKE NOTE OF THE DISCONTENT TRNC GOVERNMENT BEFORE YOU

I M P L O D E

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#3175

Pauline READ

30/01/2010 at 12:34 pm

I can only speak from my own experience. I had paid the stamp
duty on my Contract of Sale in 2005 and it is my understanding that it is the action of doing so that makes it legally binding. I did have
to pay stamp duty on the injunctions I managed to obtain on three
villas and a plot of land which was then only assets my builder
Kulaksiz (earless) Construction Limited had unmortgaged in the
Kyrenia area. All stamp duty is in Lire not sterling pounds and the most expensive was 500 Lire I consider it pointless in
pursuing an empty pot, so if you cannot find any assets in the
name of the defendant, why waste your money. Be present when
purchasing the stamps and when the stamp duty is paid over.
Never take anyones word for anything.

My case was heard by three different Judges, the second of whom
had actually been the one to give Akfinans Bank the repossession
judgement so proving that Breach of Contract should have been
easy – not so. The third Judge, a new one to this area was my salvation, asked the pertinent question, which came first the
Contract or the Mortgage and within five appearances awarded in my
favour. He treated the Director of the building company with the
contempt he deserved. Refused the petition by the builders Advocate that I should lodge 5000 Lire with the Court
for their costs should I lose and do a ‘runner’ and restored my
faith a little.

However, the debacle by the High Court in my recent Appeal case
has undermined my faith in the legal system

I can fully understand why ABAG have taken the route they have.
work.

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#3179

kyriacos

30/01/2010 at 3:46 pm

.. i did not knew about this Scam.. jee..
Not just Sell, but double sell!! something that you do not actually own to hundreds of people?
Damn! Thats like 20000% profit!
nevertheless i did knew that its common practice for ‘trnc’ to issue trial calls in weird days or just a few days before the actual trial so that the plaintiff will ”loose” the case by not appearing in front of the court.

Its also a way for them to show that they are an organized REAL country with ”firm” rules That even British citizens need to obey.. (napoleon syndrome)

.. just for the sake of truth … its not the ‘trnc’ who paid £2m to cover the Oram’s case, its Turkey mate, and the reason why they did so its because they had something to actual GAIN out of this. NOT because they gave a fuck about Orams..

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#3194

Malcolm Channing

30/01/2010 at 4:12 pm

kyriacos wrote:

its not the ‘trnc’ who paid £2m to cover the Oram’s case, its Turkey mate

I hear that Turkey are having a rethinking about paying Mr A’s lawyers’ bills. “Gee”, says Mr A, “I thought that the Orams had a spare £2m to pay all the fees, I didn’t expect them to go bankrupt and leave me to pay the bill. But at least now I’ve got…”

Another famous “gee” was the GCs in 1974, “Gee, I didn’t expect the Turks to do that, we were only giving Cyprus to the Greeks!”

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#3196

Moover

30/01/2010 at 4:26 pm

Kyriacos:

I figure that you know that the aspect of fraud and scams are endemic to this island as a whole both GCs and TCs are doing whatever it takes to rip-off foreigners.

The only difference is that the TCs admit what they are doing whereas you pretend it never happens in the ROC happy

So when you manage to get your big head out of your arse – if you can – try and smell the stench of corruption and fraud in the ROC!

People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones happy

Enjoy happy

#3200

30/01/2010 at 7:07 pm

You sir are an idiot.. (mover) ..

Transparency international :

27 Cyprus 6.6
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61 Turkey 4.4

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71 Greece 3.8

And the only reason we are not on top of Britain is indeed the Cyprus problem and the huge Army we need to preserve because of that.

@ MAl.

And when and how exactly a GC ripped off a foreigner malcolm?
on a Cab? cause I happened to got ripped off in britain on a Cab also… is this making british a corrupted people as a hole?

Of course not.

GC never double sold anything to BRits or did anything like this And got away with it.
Gc never mixed innocent british people with politics
Gc are providing with quality products and excellent service our tourists. The proof is that the vas majority of british happen to love Cyprus and keep coming back for more, and of course they are more than welcome to do so.

As for MR A … he stated malcolm that he is not happy with what happened to ORAMS. But he added that this is justice just had to stop.

What would you do in his part ? if Greeks came to britain and exploit a situation like this?

Wouldn’t you going to sue them?

OF COURSE you would..

#3213

30/01/2010 at 7:29 pm

Sorry but did you eat lead paint chips as a kid?

Seems like all your senses are blue and dysfunctional and your opinions coloured by the red mist of anger – or is that frustration at not being able to get your alleged land / property in the TRNC? happy

#3215

30/01/2010 at 7:42 pm

Engage your brain and do your homework – PRIDE ALWAYS COMES BEFORE A FALL… happy

http://www.propertywire.com/news/europe/cyprus-title-deed-scandal-200911263703.html

http://www.news.cyprus-property-buyers.com/2009/10/18/financial-ruin-for-cyprus-is-just-a-rip-off-away/id=002541

http://www.news.cyprus-property-buyers.com/2009/11/15/cyprus-minister-confident-about-title-deed-changes/id=002742

http://www.news.cyprus-property-buyers.com/2009/11/13/twenty-year-wait-for-cyprus-title-deeds/id=002710

http://www.news.cyprus-property-buyers.com/2009/10/08/british-police-probe-cyprus-villas-scam/id=002465

Above are just some examples.

Now Kyriacos – go get a life and if you can’t do that go play marbles on a motorway – maybe having a head on collision might actually improve the fucntioning of what you loosely term a brain happy

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#3218

30/01/2010 at 8:00 pm

Kyriacos

What a change to have a Cypriot who doesnt find it necessary
to be insulting at every opportunity.

I will pick you up on one point. GC Builders are selling to
Ex pats and before the purchaser has had the chance to transfer
title to their name, the builder takes out a mortgage which, if
you think about it is the same effect as double selling, the
builder gets money twice. It is upsetting purchasers your side
of the border too. The builder then fails to make payments to the
Bank and naturally the Bank will do whatever is necessary to recoup
the money – guess who is left in the brown stuff?? Clue – not the
builder.

#3222

30/01/2010 at 11:40 pm

Good job Mover you just proven us you know how to Google…
Clap clap clap…

I wander if i type England – Corruption – Scandals etc etc whassit gonna happen?

Oh wait! it looks that according to the internet britain is full of ****!!
In fact the more civilized and democratic countries i Google combined with words like – Scandals- corruption etc.. the more full of shit the internet tells me they are! I bet if i type…..
Well how about that! even Canada has scandals..
Switzerland also?
WTF is this? The word as we know it is coming to an end?

Grow up Moover, and stop advocating the devil.. you know very well that the more democratic a country is the more ”big of a deal” is even a tiny scandal. And people are free to write and tell whatever they want about it on the news ore internet. Google is not the way to tell corruption of one country – Transparency international is. An organization that specializes in this topic. //

And for what is matter Εven if you type down – Moover – pedophile – on Google you are gonna come up with some results.

Now i dont claim that Cypriots Or Cyprus is all rainbows and daisies- has NO corruption at all or stupid people whatsoever, I never said that.

All i am saying is that neither Cyprus nor Cypriots are the monsters you portrait them to be, and Yes Turkey is not prince charming either. In fact Turkey has more democratic issues as a country than Nazi-Germany had, and yes, one of them IS Cyprus.

I would like to also comment on your second link Though..

So…… the Russian who learned a few greeks claims that Cypriots don’t like the BRits!

well pardon me Mr. Sherlock Ru-Holmes.. I bet if we go on mother Russia we won’t find a single guy disliking the Brits?

Or if we go to london we wont find a British disliking the Russians?
NO?

I guess then if we did find one then we will be able to generalize and say that All Brits and Russians are the same..

…….Come onnnn

And the other thing… the price tags..

So you thinK that Carrefour or the employ there, changes the prices when british came on in?
Or gives a fuck if the costumer is british or pakistanish? Cyprus is full of foreigners mate.. That is infact one of the stupidest things i ever heard. Yes people (not Just British People) Complain about the high prices all the time And yes the Employ deals them with -i don’t give a fuck attitude- And yes nowadays Britain is more cheap than Cyprus! That is a fact.
since the bloody euro prices have gone up. Everything rounded up in a higher price than before, I don’t like that either but what u gonna do?
Everything that was 1 pound became 2 euros.
No one is conspiring against British People..

The Cypriot Govement is infact one of the few EU governments that complains that Eu should allow the countries to set Prices on some Basic Stuff so we can avoid this kind of swindling.

But EU says that Free market is a FREE market .. no regulations are allowed there..

So there you go.. since Cyprus entered eu we were forced to lift regulation laws on food prices, Thus leading to some repressed profiteering form the side of the market.

I believe we need to give it more time.. and prices will settle again.

#3228

Get Real!

31/01/2010 at 12:51 am

Moover,

According to the survey in your quoted article “Twenty year wait for Cyprus Title Deeds”… by the fifth year 75% of owners got their deeds and just 10% fell in the 20 year bracket!
So much for the dramatic title of the article…

Good on you Cyprus! happy

#3231

Emir Soler

31/01/2010 at 5:29 am

“vas majority of british happen to love Cyprus and keep coming back for more”
Are they really?
See what they said about Greek Cyprus.
Cyprus doomed to fail, because Cyprus is not what it used to be
Tourists are not respected, they are overcharged on most things, rude and surly staff acts as though they are doing you a favor by serving you. Of course, Cyprus as a country WILL suffer, tourists do not want to spend 2 weeks in an expensive, rude environment, there are other, countries to visit who are cheaper and WANT the tourists. They will be the long term winners.
CYPRUS looks like communist country now, dirty dusty shops and restaurants, rude faces everywhere, and there will be more poverty, that is what you get for having so many ex communists living here that are brainwashing Cypriots about how great communism is,” everybody is same and nobody tells you what to do” and that is a big lie!
The way business is conducted in Cyprus is totally fraudulent, every other country is now seeing this, and has stopped investment. The EU will soon be investigating this countries criminal ways. Developers, Politicians, Government workers, Estate agents, and their like, will have to get prison sentences before Cyprus sinks into oblivion, it’s on the way there now. I know some people will not like this comment, but the truth is the truth, and this IS THE TRUTH. WHO IS LISTENING?
How on earth can Cyprus ever be considered as significant when its total population is a lot less than the Cities of the major countries?
The thinking of many Cypriots is in La La Land.
I have yet to understand how Cyprus ever got accepted into the EC. It is further East than much of Turkey, further from mainland Europe than most of the North African countries The mentality of its citizens is not ‘European’ (one has only to look at the amount and intensity of illegal hunting, refusal to obey road laws, bribery and corruption in local government, etc, etc). It was a political move for dubious motives. Alexander Dumas said “Africa begins at the Pyrenees” .He could just as well have said “At Piraeus”
Most of you voted for the communist party.
Now you complain about everything happening at present. I will mention a few:
1. No proper National Health Service.
2. In many cases “slave-labour-salaries”.
3. Rising unemployment.
4. Many families under the Poverty Line.
5. Government Retirement Pensions. Too low to live on and not
enough to die on !
Sorry, but you made your choice, now you have to accept it.

#3239

31/01/2010 at 5:44 am

Wait until they wake up and see this Emir, they will lambaste
you, but only because it is true. Well posted Emir.

We dont hear from you often but when we do you tell it like it is.

#3241

ABAG

31/01/2010 at 9:05 am

Well said Emir, that is why we are approaching the USA for assistance. We have asked the EU to see the accounts of where the EU money was sent to in North Cyprus, who had some of it and where they spent it…….No answer. In America the will supeona the banks concerned and they will open the necessary accounts and the truth will out for all to see. Anyone wishing to join us

agabuyeractiongroup@yahoo.co.uk
or follow the link on here to the blog

#3273

31/01/2010 at 9:14 am

Go get em girls. you deserve justice – pity you cannot
get it here, but hey nothing is perfect although the source
of your problem starts with a Britich gangster, hopefully it will
end with American justice – best in the world.

Good luck and God bless

#3275

31/01/2010 at 11:07 am

yeah sure whatever Soler mate.. Cyprus will collapse and Trnc will flourish..

CU.. CU…

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