” Aga victims get up to date report …
Comment posted on in Cyprus Today – 30/1/2010 by ABAG
” Aga victims get up to date report a year on from Gary Robb’s unfinished business – A private meeting of Aga construction victims was being held today in Girne.”
We lovingly refer to the ‘up to date report’ as ‘further stalling tactics’, mind you it might be nice to know where the £1.3 million sent to AGA via the Amaranta Buyers Committee in 2008 went….after all it appears that the accounts for this are still rather elusive…..a letter from an AGA victim who paid into this 2008 protocol can be seen here
http://latchfords.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!AED4FE7679CA3C33!2283.entry
Recent comments by ABAG
- “Talat Kursat is not an ISO 9001 registered client of WCS and never has been”
From: Smita Shah [mailto
mitaShah@BarCouncil.org.uk]
Sent: Fri 20/08/2010 18:46
To:
Subject: RE: Membership Query
Dear
I have checked our records and I confirm that we have no record of a barrister by the name of Talat Kursat as a member of the Bar of England and Wales. I have checked the records, which return to the 1960’s.
Whilst we do of course regulate the conduct of those persons called to the Bar of England and Wales, we have no ability to police the use of the term barrister by those who are not qualified as members of the Bar of England and Wales. It is not an offence to call yourself a barrister in this country even if not called to the Bar of England and Wales although it would be an offence to exercise a right of audience in the courts of England and Wales if you are not qualified to do so or if you pretend to be able to exercise a right of audience in the courts in England and Wales if you are not so qualified. Such offences would, I suspect, be difficult if not impossible to prosecute outside of the jurisdiction of our courts here in England and Wales.
You may wish to contact the following organizations, these are all professional bodies dealing with branches of the legal profession: Law Society (www.lawsociety.org.uk); <http://www.lawsociety.org.uk);> The Council for Licensed Conveyancers (16 Glebe Road, Chelmsford, Essex CM1 1QG (www.conveyancer.org.uk)); <http://www.conveyancer.org.uk));> The institute of Legal Executives (Kempston Manor, Kempston, Bedford MK42 7AB (www.ilex.org.uk)); <http://www.ilex.org.uk));> and the Chartered Institute of Patent Agents Staple Inn Buildings, High Holborn, London, WC1V 7PZ (www.cipa.org.uk).
I am sorry that I am not able to help you further and if you are in doubt to his legitimacy – you certainly should not give out any personal information or part with money – I’m sure however that you know that anyway!
Yours Sincerely
Smita Shah
Records Manager
The General Council of the Bar
289-293 High Holborn
London WC1V 7HZ
Direct Line: 020 7242 0934
Switchboard: 020 7242 0082
Fax: 020 7831 9217
Website: www.BarCouncil.org.uk - North Cyprus Akfinans Bank enlists Akan Kursat in fight against truth
I think most would welcome a day in court…that way all the lies would be exposed, and if we have our way and with our connections it would be under the UK media spotlight ! Think of all the witnesses that could be called under oath (if the TRNC lawyers understand that phrase) , it would make most TRNC lawyers cr*p themselves - North Cyprus Akfinans Bank enlists Akan Kursat in fight against truth
Just click on protocols link at top of blog
http://latchfords.spaces.live.com/default.aspx - North Cyprus Akfinans Bank enlists Akan Kursat in fight against truth
Akan Kursat – that’s like asking pol pot to oversee a welfare system……Dear Akan is a shareholder in AGA Development and his father acted for both victim & Gary Robb, without telling the victims…..See http://tinyurl.com/2dducfl One of these document clearty names Kursat as being involved !!!!!! - in Cyprus Today – 28/4/2010
Sometimes Cyprus today do talk bo****ks !
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I am delighted that Erogluey is going to win, it can’t come soon enough
” Aga victims get up to date report a year on from Gary Robb’s unfinished business – A private meeting of Aga construction victims was being held today in Girne.”
We lovingly refer to the ‘up to date report’ as ‘further stalling tactics’, mind you it might be nice to know where the £1.3 million sent to AGA via the Amaranta Buyers Committee in 2008 went….after all it appears that the accounts for this are still rather elusive…..a letter from an AGA victim who paid into this 2008 protocol can be seen here
http://latchfords.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!AED4FE7679CA3C33!2283.entry
TRNC is behind ex-pats, says BRS – The TRNC government will support ex-pats with title deeds if faced with court action by Greek Cypriots, the BRS claims it has been assured.
This of course is a wonderful thing if true. I’d also hope that they would support ex-pats with title deeds even if they aren’t faced with court action!
I am delighted that Erogluey is going to win, it can’t come soon enough.
stelios ioannou. Is that the mouse smiling at the cat?
Dervis Eroglu ? who? Whats the difference? he also answers to the generals in ankara like anyone else?
are you really this stupid/blind?
Fightback? sorry, as of yesterday, you lost this one as well. pay up.
‘We won’t obey the decision on Orams’
No shit sherlock
TRNC is behind ex-pats, says BRS
LOL I bet the orams wouldnt move into GC land again even if they gave to them for free…what a joke…what are you going to do with the other 20K people? build houses for them? What are you doing with the empty ones? LOL
LOL ex-pats are seting a court case (in the UK against Turkey (and its puppet state) so they can claim their money back from the “trnc” who sold them stolen land. This is going to be soooo much fun….and of course all costs of this case is paid by ….you guessed it.
By the time we are through with you not even Turkey will want to have you…
lots of love
Never mind John,
We can all go back to UK and be rehoused by our loyal
government and claim every benefit available and then some.
So you see every cloud has a silver lining. Oh, and guess
who will have to pay for all this – you got it – after all
the E.U. upholds our rights as E.U. citizens – dont they.
It would probably suite you better if we were all rounded up
and put into concentration camps – better still SHOT. Oh dear
but first you’ve got to get us. What a brave, compassionate A.H.
you are.
polly,
funny that.
I dont remember extending you an invite to visit ….
Anyway, you decided to show up trust the wrong kind of people (wasnt it obvious?) and make our homes your homes. So now your own courts tell you to go and you blame who? US? Have you completely lost it woman?
we are the victims in this. You ask for sympathy from us? YOU ARE LIVING IN MY GRANS HOUSE!!!
Perhaps Polly you will find the truth if you took some history lessons. I bet they didnt teach that in BEATIFUL Hull.
and if you find Cyprus so inhospitable and horrid (since you agree with Emir) I suggest you pack up and go back to Hull. I would take any dusty, rude Cypriot over a brit drunken piss-head Yob. and yobs is what you mostly have out there. Or have you forgotten?
I bet you didnt dare step out of your house on a saturday night.
but no, no shooting, no concentration camps. it has never been our way. We dont hate you. We just want what is ours.
You will find some truths about your own wonderful country by reading how the Brits used to hang 16 and 17 year old kids for carrying leaflets proclaiming self determination.And burning 20 year old kids out caves… And how we were handed a really shitty constitution destined to controversy and failure.
We were poor and weak and you took advantage and then when you left you decided the best way to leave us is by spreading hatred
horrific! have some tea with that?
JD:
The only thing funny here is your response.
Your only concern is material – I assume you have some big debts to pay off and the GC mafia must be at your door lol
Laugh as much as you want – you still DO NOT have what you ALLEGE is your land and property. I guess those who have been living in / on your alleged property / land for the last 35 years+ will be laughing AT you to
And guess what? – they can do it in the comfort of knowing that no matter how many judgements you obtain – you will not get to possess your alleged land / property.
You said:
“… by the time we are through with you not even Turkey would want you…”
What exactly do you mean? More sodomy and buggery GC style?
JD: Do yourself a favour – go visit one of the many mental hospitals in the ROC – you really need some clinical help!
Turkey will NEVER leave the TC unprotected from your “advances”. It starts of with a writ and ends in a genocide.
Sorry, been there with you GCs!
No one in their right minds can conclude as you have – so I suggest that you keep taking those reality pills – seems like you need them badly!
Enjoy
OOPs John
Touched a nerve did I. Emir is referring the South Cyprus not
the TRNC. Why pick on Hull or as the locals call it Ull. Once met some very nice people from Ull whilst holidaying in Spain.
I,m a half and half just like you mongrels. You are an ungrateful
wretch, wasnt it the British Courts that gave you the decision
you think is so wonderful but actually has no teeth. Now you
reveal you despise all things British – no surprise there then.
John, to add further to your disappointment, I personally have no
property in my name in the TRNC , I refer to we, as in the royal We
because I back the ex pats in TRNC 100%.
Now you obviously got out of the wrong side of the bed this morning
so go back and have a little nap – theres a good boy. Chop chop.
JD:
You were poor and weak? So nothings changed then?
You are still POORLY EDUCATED, STILL METALLY WEAK – AND YOU STILL DO NOT HAVE WHAT YOU ALLEGE TO BE YOUR LAND / PROPERTY
Now isn’t that a shame? Stop deluding yourselves – start negotiating in “good faith” as hard as that is for GCs and you might, just might get some peace, security and reconciliation and if the Turks are feeling generous – they may even throw in a bit of land and property to satisfy your material cravings
Get back the TRNC? Not a cat’s chance in hell
You’ll need to be brave soldiers not weasely cowards who like shafting each other from behind and insulting women 
Enjoy
Polly:
The Greedy GC don’t despise all things British.
They adore the judgements they can get from the UK courts
They somehow believe that the pieces of papaer will when waived at the TCs simply get them to bow down and capitulate!
The GC live in cloud cockoo land – delusional to the point they could be mentally certified!
Don’t let JD get to you – he is just lamenting the last 35 years and looking forward to lamenting the next 35 years – poor old man will go to his grave holding that paper from the British courts…
Enjoy
Looner , you talk a load of bull ! Constantly Allegedly and foolishly.
What a first class AH ! How is the Anatolian boy treating you by the way ,or is it all the way.
Since you ALLEGE that your alleged knowledge of the G/Cs is vastly superior to our alleged , oh what the hell , trying to talk to a Plonker !
Polly , I doubt if the UK has enough room for all you cheapskates , as you know the prisons here in the UK are full to the brim .
Allegedly that is !!
What a pair of Plonkers you and the looner make , a couple of unwanted Brits , desperately trying to be .. intelligently witty , or is it allegedly sly .
Moover and to think Yawnnis taught all he knew.
Well that will cover a postage stamp (TRNC of course)
and we would still have room for
Moover and to think Yawnnis taught all he knew.
Well that will cover a postage stamp (TRNC of course)
and we would still have room for War and Peace.
dear “half&half” polly,
If you think Hull is nice place then I suggest you book your next holiday there, then try outer Somalia, it’s as nice.
Why would i think Emir is talking about n. cyprus? Do you think we want drunken 18 year old brit druggies coming here? We would send them over to you, if you werent such slobs.
Ungrateful of UK ourts? Any court would (and will) make the same ruling so long as it follows the letter of law. The only reason why UK courts were involved is because those two piggies are her majestys subjects (and how proud she must be). In the civilised world we dont see justice as a privelege. Maybe you are confusing yourself with Turkish courts and their prisons….
Maybe what you dont understand is the state of being in Turkey, the deep state and the backwardness, this is where all of our problems originate from. the fact that you are in reality a 3rd world country when it comes to human rights.
It is, perhaps, as human being you do not have the decensy and the guts to challenge a system that torments your people and the peoples around them.
Is it a wonder that so many tcs have left cyprus never to return? there is 60K left and are a minority in their own land. Is it a wonder that you had a man as R. Denktash for 20 years without one protest? The man who was taking pictures of people being shot (by his own minister mind you who has an international warrant against him). You beat a man, an unarmed man to death on international tv with no reservations. You left an unarmed wounded soldier to die in the DMZ because, after you shot (snipped) him and you would not let the UN pick him up and threatened to shoot on them!!
You allow the “government” to bring 200K turks so that the tcs NEVER have a real say anymore. People that depend on the army and the gov to survive, so they will always vote what they are told!
You set up huge blinking flags on mountains as if you are some african country.
You harbour criminals and fugitives.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU? why do you choose to live this way? Why insticate so much hatred? it makes no sense. Why dont you react? why do you take it ?
Who wants to live this way? Who would want these people as neighbours?
Do you understand? Is it clear? YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING
JD:
You are depriving a village somewhere of an idiot
Why, oh! why! So many stupid questions
Is the GC education system really that bad or are you a self-made idiot?
Enjoy
moover,
you are a poor excuse of a human being. and you know it
Yawn…Yawn…Yawnnniiisss:
“May the mother of your camels spit in your Greek yogurt”
ROC was a mistake – a big mistake – but just a pimple on the backside of humanity
No one cares about GCs – why should they? It would be like being concerned about the dirt under your shoes
And never forget: You still don’t have your ALLEGED property or land in the TRNC – and going by the last 35 years + you are unlikely to ever possess it!
Enjoy
This is a dear John letter except you are busted Yainnis
I will visit Ull, but I think you had better not after your
comments – they might not like you.
Boy have you been brainwashed. Take everything you say, insert
Greek or Greek Cypriot and you may come close to the truth.
I guess you wouldnt recognise the truth if it bit you on the
bum (dont get excited now).
You really believe what you write which is sad. Why did so many
Turkish Cypriots leave – TO SAVE THEIR LIVES – they knew about
your plan to ethnically cleanse the then Cyprus and left – wise
choice. Many of those that left and their offspring are returning.
I say WELCOME HOME to YOUR land.
JD:
Is that your best attempt? Keep taking the tablets – who knows one day they may actually meet your brain cell to improve your wit
Tell me JD: Have you got possession of your land / property? Still dreaming
?
Enjoy
Yawn…Yawn…Yawnnniiisss:
Everyone can be rude – but for you it’s an art and now I know the reason why….
…the best part of you ran down the inside of your mother’s leg
Still waiting for your alleged land / property? Never forget: Possession is and has always been 9/10ths of the law
Enjoy
wit? you think you are witty?. lol turkish houmor no doubt, hohoho
have another pork kebab.
not to worry, you will end up one way or another, cleaning my toilet, cleaning my car, carrying the garbage,
for peanuts
it looks like you got elephant skin, you can take the abuse.
lots of love
JD:
Keep trying…one day you might actually say something that doesn’t make you look like the AH you really are
At least you are honest about how you would like to treat TCs.
But – tell me – do you still have the land / property you allegedly own? Ummm…I guess not
POSSESSION IS AND WILL ALWAYS BE 9/10THS OF THE LAW – AND SLICE IT HOWEVER YOU WANT – YOU DON’T HAVE POSSESSION!
So stop dreaming about how you would treat TCs – and understand if your brain cell can take it – that without a political settlement you’ll get no peace, no security, no reconciliation and no land!
Enjoy
what are you talking about?
usuf is already fixing the car, mustafa is painting the house and ayshe (fat short and ugly , ur relative?) is mopping the floor.
all for aa couple of euros a day. a few more years we might give them passports just like your minister….
I heard your moma used to work in the fields near lurudjina, with a bit of luck she might get a her job back one day.
sticks and stones boyo sticks and stones
Lost the plot again – get back on your medication
lie down in a dark room you’ll soon feel better.
Love and kisses polly
Looner , are you moving back to the village then, allegedly !
Polly , the T/Cs left AFTER TURKEY CAME TO SAVE THEM you stupid Plonker !
polly,
you need hang out with sibel a bit more, she’ll give you a massage and she’ll explain the whole story. she’s good with history, she published “fashion police” not too long ago.
run along now.
Knit one, pearl one did something try to get my attention?
What a good suggestion Yiannis (John) I would think she would
be a darn sight more interesting than you are Yawn yawn
Yawnnis.
lOVE AND KISSes polly
Now you are trying to pick me up , are you !!
Polly , I’m almost 64 years old , the last 46 years I spent with my late wife who passed away last November . An English girl through and through whose father served during the last war and was captured and imprisoned by the Japanese until the end of the war .Her late brother also served in the British army and fought in the Burma war .I have two children who are naturally half English and half G/C. I also have three grandchildren in whose veins English blood flows .
My older brother also married to an English lady and they have five children and six grandchildren , all have G/C and English DNA .
Our English families are quite extended with relations in Yorkshire , in Jarrow , Newcastle , Bournmouth , Reading and in other parts of the UK.
Why am I TELLING YOU THIS.
I want you to understand that a man with so many English in his family can not possibly be anti English on the contrary at times Im more English than the English , I also , in memory of my late father in law I fly the St Georges flag on St Georges day.
My wife was laid to rest in Limassol Cyprus , an English rose that fell in love with Cyprus and preferred her resting place to be in Cyprus. Very English she was , spoke hardly any Greek and was proud of her English heritage.
Why is it that I condemn yobs , hooligans , murderers , child molesters and villains in general ? Not because some are English but because they are criminals.
I make a clear distinction between the above mentioned and people such as you who by sheer ignorance have allowed your selves to enter the group of people that I most despise , you are not murderers you are not child molesters but you are accessories to theft . Buying dodgy land from dodgy people is not only utterly stupid is also criminal. You knew very well that the entire world community considers the north of Cyprus to be under the occupation of Turkey , yet not only did you ignore your own FO advice you have also allowed limited brain capacity to be indoctrinated by Turkish propaganda , you clearly hate the G/Cs , you clearly belive that had Turkey not invaded the G/Cs would have wiped out the T/Cs. I posted many times before that 6 whole years before Turkey invaded there were no killings , no conflict amongst our two communities, yet you persit expanding the nonsense that somehow a massacre was taking place.
You are so screwed up as a result of your intense hatred of the G/Cs that your brains are not functioning with logical thoughts but with totally absurd notions.
I make it clear so that you understand , in disliking the cheapskates I’m in no way berating the English , my wife would not have approved and I value and cherish the 46 years that we had together , my late father in law who initialy dissaproved of her daughter’s association with a G/C , eventually came to respect me as a person and love me as a son in law and as a father to his grandchildren , he would turn in his grave if I expressed hatred towards his English heritage .
I hope I have made it abundantly clear that I’m as English as you might be.
yiannis savvides wrote: You are so screwed up as a result of your intense hatred of the G/Cs that your brains are not functioning with logical thoughts but with totally absurd notions
YS, what I find so irritating is that you are so blinded by bias that you appear to have more contempt for British (not TC or GC) trespassers (UK court’s definition of their crime) than you have for EOKA members who murdered British soldiers.
Quote: “TRNC is behind ex-pats, says BRS – The TRNC government will support ex-pats with title deeds if faced with court action by Greek Cypriots, the BRS claims it has been assured.”
What a worthless and meaningless statement. BRS claim the government will bail out expats with dodgy title deeds. So why hasn’t the government made any such statement? Possibly because they consider those who bought GC property to be fools who will believe any old hearsay rubbish.
Malcolm , EOKA was not formed in order to go on a killing spree of British soldiers. EOKA was formed following the UK Parliaments decision as relayed to the Cypriot people by Sir Andrew Wright the Governor of Cyprus in 1953 .
The proclamation by the British government was that THERE WOULD BE NO CHANGE IN THEIR POSITION REGARDING THE GOVERNANCE OF CYPRUS AND THAT THE MATTER IS CLOSED.
Faced with such arrogance do you blame the Cypriot people for wanting and demanding their freedom , a freedom that the British government unequivocally precluded ?
EOKA , was formed to fight the British army which , against the will of the Cypriot people , ruled Cyprus.
In a war , killings do take place , murders too , like young 18 year olds hunged by the British for carrying EOKA leaflets .
Injustices carried out by the British authorities in introducing the T/C auxiliary force with the aim of driving a wedge between the smaller community and the largest community. The British authorities bungled their operation in Cyprus , the Parliamentarians were too busy fiddling their expense accounts .
Since you say that the resistance to the British occupation of Cyprus , ie EOKA were murderers would you also class the French resistance against the Nazis as a murderous event , would you also denigrate the British resistance and blanket bombing of German cities as murderous acts.
Use your logic Malcolm otherwise you sound a bit like Bin Laden !!
Polly wrote: “We can all go back to UK and be rehoused by our loyal
government and claim every benefit available and then some.
So you see every cloud has a silver lining. Oh, and guess
who will have to pay for all this – you got it – after all
the E.U. upholds our rights as E.U. citizens – dont they”
It’s almost poetic justice to think of where the local authorities will put destitute carpetbaggers who pitch up at the bottom of the council housing list in Blighty. At least some of you are already used to living with dirt-poor immigrants.
yiannis savvides wrote:would you also class the French resistance against the Nazis as a murderous event
So, YS, as I said you will never condemn the EOKA even for killing a pregnant woman and yet somehow you find trespassing a disproportionally worse crime which you must constantly speak out against. Life or property, which is more important to you?
Malcolm , I think I made this clear quite a few posts back.
I do not condone the killing of anyone , I understand that in a war there will be victims and one naturally expects the victims to be a part of the combatants , when an innocent person becomes the victim then the act is barbaric and inexcusable .
The pregnant woman in question was I believe the wife of a British army officer . Her killing was regrettable .
You must take into account that the Cypriot people , 30 thousand of them including President Klerides , joined the British army during the second world war in response to a massive enlistment campaign by the British administration of Cyprus proclaiming ” FIGHTING FOR BRITAIN YOU ARE FIGHTING FOR GREECE AND FREEDOM ”
A load of b..s as it turned out , corrupt political manipulative …promissory notes that were NEVER intended to be honoured , is there any surprise that the Cypriot people took up arms against a corrupt regime ?
Where was progress when the British ruled Cyprus ?
Look at us now .
yiannis savvides wrote: The pregnant woman in question was I believe the wife of a British army officer . Her killing was regrettable .
I’m not saying that you are condoning killing, what I am saying is that you condemn Brits trespassing and yet will never condemn the EOKA’s killing of a pregnant woman. You say “her killing her was regrettable” and you justify this GC’s action and seem more worried about property issues than the life of an unborn child. I believe you are not alone and the rest of the GCs commenting here share your view. I would be interested to discover if I am wrong. Any of you GCs willing to condemn that GC murderer?
Geez Yiannis, are you still at it?
Mate, this bias of yours is so strong it simply doesn’t allow you to see anything other than one side…your side. The closest you can grudgingly come to a concession is to say that both sides are equally to blame.
See, this is what I mean…”you have also allowed limited brain capacity to be indoctrinated by Turkish propaganda , you clearly hate the G/Cs , you clearly belive that had Turkey not invaded the G/Cs would have wiped out the T/Cs. I posted many times before that 6 whole years before Turkey invaded there were no killings , no conflict amongst our two communities, yet you persit expanding the nonsense that somehow a massacre was taking place.”
I seriously doubt that anyone, repeat anyone, who writes on my side of the fence “intensely” hates GCs, or even normally hates them. I certainly don’t. But do I believe that had Turkey not invaded, the GCs would have wiped out the TCs? You bet I do! You continue to espouse (boringly so) the silly piece of dogma that no TCs were murdered 6 years prior to 1974, but apart from an irrelevant arbitrariness (why not 7 years, or 10 years before?), you completely avoid the point. And that is that the TCs WERE being wiped out! They were confined in enclaves as 3rd class citizens, and their society and culture were being systematically eradicated by the contolling GCs! THAT’S BEING WIPED OUT, MATE!
As Malcolm has highlighted, you revile the Brits who purchased, not stole, properties in TRNC with astounding passion, but consider the EOKA thugs who shot unarmed and defenceless men, women and children in the backs to be nothing worse than gallant freedom fighters! That, my friend, is bias with a capital B.
You have a proclivity to wandering off on some very wide tangents when faced with searching questions, Yiannis. You don’t seem able, or willing, to confine your debate to what happened on Cyprus.
Trading wrongs never made anything right.
Ian , its good to see that your still spouting garbage !!
Get a life Plonker !!
I shall not enter into a debate with a retard Amen !!
On that peurile response, I think I can safely rest my case.
Ok Plonker , let us debate.
Let us first of all take your statement “consider the EOKA thugs who shot unarmed and defenceless men, women and children in the backs to be nothing worse than gallant freedom fighters! That, my friend, is bias with a capital B.”"
Can you provide some evidence of these utter nonsense or perhaps you can tell our reading ” public ” as to how many men women and children did EOKA SHOT AT THE BACK , FRONT , SIDEWAYS OR ANY OTHER WAY.
You make such sweeping statements you must have the required evidence otherwise you are talking a load of bull.
In a previous post you were adamant that had Turkey not invaded the T/Cs would have been wiped out. Another nonsensical statement that you must provide evidence for , dont just open your big mouth and begin to fart.
SIX YEARS PRIOR TO THE TURKISH INVASION THERE WAS NOT A CONFLICT IN ACTION THERE WERE NONE VICTIMS.
Challenge this statement of mine and provide evidence that a massacre was talking place.
None let us take a 10 year period or even let us start from 1958 when TMT were the first to commit murders against innocent G/Cs.
Do you know the total number of T/C fatalities during the conflict years? I will not tell you neither will I provide a reputable link for you , you find it out since you know so much about the Cyprob. While you are at it perhaps you can also find out how many G/Cs were fatalities during the same period . Will you also find out what the policy of TMT / Grey wolves was during the conflict years , do some research before opening your mouth and coming out with regurgidated garbage. Go on my son , show us how much you know based on evidence not on the bullshit you pick up in bars from other retards.
There are a number of ways of having a debate. One way is to respect each others right to express opinions , and I ephasize the word opinions .However when one expreses ” opinions” and asserts that such opinions are facts then the debate becomes a farce , such as this one right now Mr Plonker.
Do not even think of impressing me with your command of the English language , just provide a shrub of evidence if you are capable.
Yiannis, you’re right about this debate being a farce, and for exactly the reasons you state…you just have the cause arsey-varsey.
As you have demanded evidence with your now-standard insulting truculence, I’ll direct you, once again but for the last time, to the book “The Cyprus Conspiracy” by O’Malley and Craig, the book commissioned and paid for by the Greek and GC governments. Photo #3 following page 126, to be precise, and I quote: “BELOW. Greek attempts to change the constitution in 1963 led to inter-ethnic atrocities. The Museum of Barbarism in Kumsal District, Nicosia, preserves this blood-stained bath in which these children of a Turkish officer were shot by Greek-Cypriot gunmen.”
Needless to say, the photo is ghastly.
And also needless to say, once again you have either completely misunderstood my point about eradicating the TC society and culture, or have decided to ignore it as it just doesn’t fit your cherished model of GC innocence.
I’m not sure I can be bothered with you any more, Yiannis.
Ian Edwards wrote: I’m not sure I can be bothered with you any more, Yiannis.
I’ll second that Ian, although I have to admit YS is a master debated sometimes, but he can’t keep it up when he’s on the old vino.
I think you need a teat on your wine bottle, second childhood or
what Yawniiis.
Dream on.
Pikeeee
How did you get to be so bitter and twisted. Are you naturally
so boring or do you practice?
If it gives you pleasure to think of pensioners living in penury
I feel sorry for you. Were you dropped on your head as a child?
Of course, clever old Pikeee did his homework and bought a house
that would not deprive a GC of their ancestral shack.
Bully for you – I for one do not believe you. SERENDIPITY more
likely. Oh the size of your head isnt due to the size of the
brain contained therein – more the swelling from when you were dropped on it. I say all this with love.
Malcolm, I agree with you that Yiannis can be a master baiter sometimes, and understand that too much vino can have a dampening effect on such activity…
Now Ian – that really is below the belt.
Sorry couldnt resist it!!!!!!