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Comment posted To comment or not to comment? by Cypriot.

Malcolm says ‘If I closed comments down I would include a form to send comments to the editor who would then decide whether to publish them. ‘ .
This will be quite time consuming for editor, but in the mean time might improve the quality of language have been used here.

Recent comments by Cypriot

• The Cyprus Problem by River Daniel age 13
  Thomas,

  Your questions:
  Would you have considered the Venetians as Cypriots? 
  Technically for any Venetians who were born in Cyprus and who had felt like one,   yes.
  But Venetians mainly prefered to be referred as Venetians, just like how the other groups had prefered the different uniq identities on the island.
   
  At what point do/did a people group rightly take the name Cypriots? 
  Perhaps in Ottoman or British colonial years.
   
  What were the qualifications?  Even in Venetian period, population was made of  different ethnical groups. Not  qualified.
   
  Can people become Cypriot today?
  Yes for anyone that would accept that ancestors of Cypriots are not only Greeks or Turkish but  the mixture of all, Anatolians of  Neolitik era, Latins, Hitits, Mikens, Romans, Greeks, Venetians , English of the 12 century,  Arabs,  Persians,  Egyptians,   and  Ottomans-Turks (and any other I have forgotten to list ).  This is what really makes the nation of Cypriots. But I believe it might be too late now.
   

• The Cyprus Problem by River Daniel age 13
  Thomas,
  Quick contribution regarding yor message  ’Did or did not the Greek Cypriots raise the Ottoman flag in 1570?’

  The Orthodox Cypriots raised the Ottoman flag before the Ottomans were on the island.

  As  Ottomans having many conflicts with Venetians in meddeterranean at that time, what had also  motivated Ottomans as support were the continuous invitation by Orthodox Cypriots.

  Why?
  ‘ The Ottomans were wel­comed by many Cypriots because they liberated them from the Westeuropean feudal system and reinstalled the rights of the Orthodox church to a very large ex­tent.’   (Tzermias Pavlos 1991 Geschichte der Republik Zypern : 14  , Maratheftis  Antonios. I. 1989  ’Den ksechno’  : 32, The University of Texas at Austin) ‘

  Venetians were Catholics. Venetiand didn’t allow freedom for religion. Orthodox church had no rights.

  People were living and producing  on lands for  Venetian ruling. They had no rights  to have their privately owned  land.  Land ovner had always been the Venetian administration.  People of Cyprus had no any land registered to their names.
  And many many more restrictions.

  Ottomans had  not interevent with the religion  or the private land ownership whenever they had conquer
  any place. So the Ottomans being powerfull enough at that time in the region were the best choice of  any options.  

  Ottomans had given the right of religion and also the right of ownership of  any land in Cyprus.
  ‘ In the course of the 300 years of Ottoman rule, Greek- and Turkish-Cypriots established extensive networks of social and economic interac­tion (Attalides Michael 1977a: 75 Attalides, 1977a: The Turkish Cypriots: Their relations to the Greek Cypriots in perspective. Cyprus Reviewed. Nicosia. ) ‘ 

  After the successful Greek war of liberation in the 1820s,  Greek nationalism, led by the Orthodox church started to increas.

  In the British colonial years , as this nationalism  had been going on for almost a century, in 1955 Greek-Cypriots organized in an armed struggle against the colonial regime (EOKA). They fought for union with Greece (Enosis) but not for independence.

• More North Cyprus Banks to auction paid for properties – who can you trust?
  The argument of ‘stolen properties’ is not valid. That political commercial had already expired since both EU and ECHR recognise and approves IPC.
• Akfinans Bank tries to sell fully paid for property to the owners
  Malcolm,
   “gerçekten bu ingiliz aileye yapılanlar bir zulümdür.hangi çağda yaşıyoruz”

  should translate as :
  Really, what has been done to this English family is cruelty(oppression-misery) . In which era (century) are we living in?

• The Cyprus Problem by River Daniel age 13
  Dear Daniel,
  Special thank  to you for putting  an effort and time to create your article and sharing with us all in NCFP.

  Althogh I might not agrre with all in this article or might think there are some missing parts,  I will not make any effort to critisize you in anyway at all or to argue with you about them,  but to respect to your work and your opinions.  (reserving the right of replying to some posts here    )

  With the encouragement, interest  and effort you already have to learn about our island,  I am absolutely sure that you will learn much more and disclose more truths for yourself  and others about all the matters in the future.

  By the way, my mother’s great grandmother’s  one side  and my father’s great grandparents are from Venetians period  in Cyprus who got married with my Ottoman ancestors.
  (the myth in the family is, my mother’s great grandmother  was the daughter of  someone very very high position in Venetian government)

  Daniel, I had enjoyed readin every article you had posted in NCFP. You had posted information about things that we look at them every day but don’t think of them so much in our daily life. It was really good to be reminded and reinformed of the forgotten information. Thank you. So keep up the good work and all the best to you in your school life as well.

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