Property – a problem shared is a problem quadrupuled
I have just read that the RoC are to issue Certificates of Ownership to Greek Cypriot refugees occupying land belonging to Turkish Cypriots in the south. The legality of these certificates outside of the RoC is questionable as they seem to be similar to the TRNC title deeds passed on to ex-pats in the north. My heart goes out to these refugees who, like the Turkish Cypriot refugees in the north, must be confused and distressed over what is happening; aware they are pawns in a much bigger political game far beyond their comprehension and knowing that at any time they could find themselves in the same position as the Orams v Mr. A. Fiasco.
When ordinary people find themselves in extraordinary situations they do not always behave well. In the TRNC we have ordinary ex-pats, most in the autumn of their lives being attacked on three fronts. Many are now suffering from anxiety related illnesses and some have succumbed to major illnesses, exacerbated by the stress, resulting in early death. The partners of the deceased are left wondering which way to turn and what on earth they are doing here. So many have invested everything they have in their ‘dream’ and do not have a way out. You can then understand if the frustration brought about by this causes them to be less than polite if a Greek Cypriot knocks on their door claiming that the house and land belongs to them. What is not yet clear is whether there will soon be more Turkish Cypriots knocking on Greek Cypriot refugee doors and demanding their properties back.
Now, in the south, these refugees may in a few years come to believe that the certificate they have been given is what it says it is; a certificate of OWNERSHIP. It is not inconceivable for some of them to pass them on to foreigners who seeing how cheap they are, snap them up . With the help of flexible lawyers, arrangements can be made for new certificates to be produced with a change of name from the Greek Cypriot refugee to, for example, an unsuspecting Brit. The lawyer will explain that the government will offer the original Turkish Cypriot owner compensation and so these certificates are as good as title deeds. Isn’t the fact that they can be used to raise a mortgage proof of this?
Contrary to Greek Cypriot popular opinion, most foreigners in the TRNC consulted legal advice, were encouraged by the Government who took their stamp duty, VAT and other purchase related government taxes and were actively complicit in all aspects of their house purchase here. It turns out that the TRNC’s actions were not acceptable to the international community. Some Greek Cypriots accuse these foreigners of being stupid for not realising this. But isn’t this what is now happening in the south, the RoC is unilaterally deciding to issue pieces of paper with the word “ownership” on them, contrary to international law? If they get away with it how would this be different to what has happened in the north? Ten years later, with no settlement likely, these pieces of paper could be seen as being exactly the same as the TRNC title deeds – proof of ownership and therefore capable of being sold despite having no value outside the RoC.
Doesn’t it seem hypocritical that the RoC has finally decided that what the TRNC has done is perfectly acceptable? Pre-2004 they could have got away with it by explaining that they were a sovereign state and could do what they liked but now, with the help of Mr A, it has been established that all refugee land belongs to the original owner and anyone on that land is a trespasser and should leave immediately.
The second and more immediate threat is the prospect of Banks being given the go-ahead to repossess homes mortgaged by the builders/landowners after the purchaser has contracted to buy and has paid for the property. This is a practice shared throughout Cyprus and is an abomination, allowed and supported by archaic laws and a lack of will, on the part of both Governments, to do anything about it. There is talk of a committee being formed to investigate this practice but, as we all know, this is just an attempt to avoid action which is needed now and not when hundreds of families, throughout Cyprus, are thrown out of their homes.
The third and perhaps the most insidious threat comes from some Turkish Cypriot landowners who, on the basis of a points system, were given land to compensate for that which they were forced to leave behind in the south. In return they forfeited the original Koçan which is held by the TRNC government. The alleged ‘scam’ appears to be that having sold the land they were given in the north, mainly to ex pats, the Turkish Cypriot vendor goes to the south, professes to have lost the original Koçan and tries to claim back the land they left in the there, thus getting two bites of the cherry. Surely it wouldn’t be impossible to have some co-operation between the north and south to stop this happening. I would point out this is just a few Turkish Cypriots allegedly doing this; the majority would not stoop so low.
Hindsight is wonderful and we all have 20/20 vision when it comes to looking at the past. The fact that in these very hard times a mass exodus of ex-pats would cripple the TRNC economy seems to be common knowledge to everyone except the Government. The Government needs to wake up and do what they were elected to do – GOVERN without fear or favour.
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The absolute truth lies somewhere between your point of view and
mine. Time will tell whether your Andrex is as
disposable as the TRNC’s toilet paper.
In the UK most house purchasers take a mortgage to purchase a
property so the solicitor is extra diligent, also the Law
Society do actively police their activities so you are comparing
chalk with cheese. Reporting a negligent solicitor is easy, not so here.
It is too easy to blame the ex pats, you forget, you have lived
with the situation all your life, they have not, they trusted
in a regime that appeared to be democratically elected and were
not as knowledgable about the situation here as you think they ought to have been. It is not an excuse, it is a reason. You can lambaste them all you like, it doesnt change the situation
If you think filling prisons with geriatrics is a solution, go ahead. I am sure that most would welcome it, Living for free -
after all isnt that what cheapskates do?
If, however you do have a shred of compassion, perhaps you can
suggest something helpful. I wont hold my breath.
Pauline says :
“they trusted
in a regime that appeared to be democratically elected ”
Did you ever wonder as to why this “democratically elected ” regime was not recognized by any nation on earth ?
Did you not think it weird that it has no direct flights , no direct mail , not a currency it can call its own ?
I suppose not , now you gained my compassion for your utter stupidity may I have yours for my ancestral lands that have been usurped by the occupying Turkish army , also your compassion please for the need to show my passport in order to enter my village , town , city all of which have now been renamed , and for not being able to reside in the house that I was born in . That my dear is the crux of the matter !
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YS
You have my compassion – everyone in this situation does.
Often it is not until you live in the country that you realise
just how serious things are – by then it is too late.
Looking backwards wont help – so what is the way forward?
Pauline,
Excellent article and brilliant advice.
Here’s to looking forward to a solution for all.
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The current negotiations will not , I’m afraid , result in a solution.
There are a number of issues that at the moment appear as being not negotiable.
First and foremost what Turkey must realize is that her insistence on being granted guarantor rights will never be acceptable to the overwhelming majority of Cypriots who see her presence here as one of an occupier. She is well aware of the fact that no agreement can be implemented that endorses her role in Cyprus and affords her the rights of intervention in any part of Cyprus .
The problem will continue for some time yet , the Cypriot people must first of all embrace Cyprus as their homeland and ditch the foreign ” motherlands” that many still consider.
Any one who wishes to be considered as a Cypriot must firstly , as its natural , embrace this country and work for the good of all citizens.
Much corrective work has to be undertaken by both the G/Cs and the T/Cs in order to remove and isolate those issues that cause the continuation of the current situation.
The RoC WILL NEVER REFER TO THE TURKISH ARMY AS ANYTHING OTHER THAN AN OCCUPYING FORCE.
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YS
Obviously you believe in equality and I will not disagree with you
on that point. Unfortunately there are many who say that but when
push comes to shove want to be just a little more equal than
others which is precisely why aggreements are so hard to come by.
Pauline I hear what you are saying and indeed some G/Cs continue to sustain beliefs that this island is exclusively the property of the Greeks , notice I use Greeks and not Greek Cypriots , because those who consider Cyprus to be wholly Greek are generally those that also consider Greece to be their motherland.
For Cypriots such as I and thousands upon thousands of true Cypriots who share the vision that Cyprus is an independent nation , albeit part of it under foreign occupation , the idea that any Cypriot will be ” superior” to another is grotesque . All are equal under the laws of the RoC and the EU’s.
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ah, so that’s why cyprus joined the EU not to be part of the EU community, but to get EU to do your dirty work for you, and if it goes tits up, as per usual blame somebody else other than yourselves, talk about freeloading.
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is it wanting my ancestral home and trying to stop cheapratskates like you benefiting?
Sorry yiannis savvides, we don’t eat pork so you can come and get your ancestrral home.
Patientia est a donum superum.
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Baron Kyri.
You’ve been at that GC propaganda again, tends to make one ramble.
Patientia est a donum superum.
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Kyri
I did sue my vendor and won on 7 breaches of contract so come
6th May 2010 when he hasnt paid up, an enforcement order on the
judgment will cause him to have four of his assets sold at auction
so that my award can be realised. A court memorandum is on his
assets so I do have them ring fenced. My particular ‘bogey man’
is a Turkish settler. Ironically, his family are also affected
and stand to lose their homes. Since the majority of his family
are old women and children, I take no joy from their suffering.
Just because my problem has been sorted, it does not mean I do not
feel for other people – hence my Appeal against Bank mortgages, there was nothing to be gained for me personally in going this route. Unfortunately, in that case I was snookered.
As for having a different point of view to you, well we are looking at things from a different perspective aren’t we. Time
will tell who was right and who was wrong.
I have found, in life that I know what I am thinking, beyond that I know nothing. There Kyri, I’ve left myself wide open for
you to score points with your unique brand of sarcasm and wit!!!
The article comes to no conclusions, it is meant to get people
from both sides of the debate talking. Guess what – it works.
There can be no conclusions until there is a settlement.
AN ARTICLE IN THE TURKISH PRESS :
EU draft sets deadline for Turkish withdrawal from Cyprus
In a move likely to infuriate Ankara, a European Union advisory body is preparing to call on Turkey to withdraw its forces from northern Cyprus, setting a deadline of the end of this year for such a withdrawal.
Committee of Regions (CoR), an EU advisory body representing the bloc’s regional and local governments, is scheduled to vote on a draft report on “Enlargement Strategy and Main Challenges, 2009-2010,” which is focused on candidate countries, on March 2.
The draft “urges the Turkish government to actively support the ongoing negotiations and to contribute in a practical way to full settlement of the Cyprus question, on the basis of a bizonal and bicommunal federation with a single international legal personality and citizenship, in accordance with the relevant decisions of the UN Security Council and the principles underpinning the EU, and invites it to facilitate the creation of a climate that is conducive to negotiations, withdrawing the Turkish forces illegally occupying Cyprus, an EU member state, by the end of 2010, resolving the issue of the settlers and enabling the return of the sealed-off part of Famagusta [Gazimağusa in Turkish] to its legal inhabitants.”
Turkey sent its troops to Cyprus in 1974 following attacks on Turkish Cypriots by Greek Cypriot groups favoring unification with Greece and eventually a Greek-inspired coup on the island.
Cyprus joined the EU as a divided island just after Greek Cypriots in the south rejected a UN reunification plan that the Turkish Cypriots in the north overwhelmingly supported in twin referendums in 2004. Turkey has called on the EU to fulfill its commitment to end the isolation of the Turkish Cypriots as a condition for opening its ports and airports to traffic from Greek Cyprus.
20 February 2010, Saturday
TODAY’S ZAMAN ANKARA
http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/news-202083-100-eu-draft-sets-deadline-for-turkish-withdrawal-from-cyprus.html
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YS,
I need to ask you to clarify some things you said:
“First and foremost what Turkey must realize is that her insistence on being granted guarantor rights will never be acceptable to the overwhelming majority of Cypriots who see her presence here as one of an occupier.”
Are you suggesting that after a solution the guarantors would be TR troops stationed in Cyprus? I can see where you might not be happy about that, but I’m sure the TA could provide its guarantee from Turkey, without a dedicated presence in Cyprus.
“She is well aware of the fact that no agreement can be implemented that endorses her role in Cyprus and affords her the rights of intervention in any part of Cyprus.”
I’m not sure that she wants the right to intervene an ANY part of Cyprus, just that part where the TCs are in the majority i.e. the TC part of the BBF/C. Is that not reasonable?
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A bit like the right of the EU to intervene if the UK were to invade southern Ireland? The EU would have the right to defend the Irish but not to attack the UK?
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look at that Annan plan flag ..
just imaging the next day with that flag.. GC will raise the flag with the blue color above..
//TC will raise the flag with the red color above.. And tension will be created even in that subject.
Furthermore lets take a look at what this flag symbolizes in plane terms..
BLUE LINE = GC/
whiteline = bufferzone
/yellow line= UN
/ whiteline = buffer zone/
Redline= TC;/
??? is this what some people think as an ideal solution to the problem? legalization of the injustice and the partition of the island? Make sure right from the constitution that TC and GC will always be divided into two?
man..that plan had SO MANY partitioning elements in it that /Even DO NOTHING would have been a better solution than that.. just remove the troops and let the free marked- the international law, human rights and justice do their job!! its just a bloody island! a piece of ROCK!
How hard is to reunite a piece of Rock? …i was so disappointed from the un and the international community back then.. They had a chance when people was more optimistic to reunite this island
But they just had to blew it by making an experiament that could next apply to Gaza stripe.. ?
THANKS A LOT UN.
///
..what a waste…
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YS,
You haven’t answered my question: What is wrong with TR giving TCs a guarantee, if GCs are 100% sure there would never be a situation where this needed to be exercised?
Simple question, simple answer please.
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Yainnis,
Harbouring a grudge for 36 has solved nothing; it seems you have relied on politicians on both sides to solve your problems who thus far have let you down, whilst getting very well paid for doing it. The longer you wait the more they get paid, in a real democracy most of them and their relatives in Government both sides would be looking for a job, the current situation suits them very well and they have plenty incentive to perpetuate it. Why believe that they will find a solution now or in the next 36 years? The people of the RoC have it within their power to be the author of their own fate by reaching out to their TC brothers and bringing down the barriers and divisions just as the people of Germany did. In fact it would be very much easier. Sure there was compromise at the time and a little economic instability for a while, but look where they are now. No occupying power could, or would be allowed to interfere if you did this tomorrow. When people ignore borders then borders don’t exist, who is the border protecting from what? What is holding you back? Is there any genuine reason why you cannot be on your ancestral homeland tomorrow? The past will not return we must live in the present and make the best of it.
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Yiannis,
Nothing happens overnight and I don’t believe that 160k people would want to move North, but if they did there are plenty who would swop and move South. Integration is a slow process it seems you don’t want this you just want retribution and the world to be as it was before 74. That will never happen; wishing for it and calling people stupid names won’t make it happen either. Compromise will make it happen, politicians can’t make it happen but the people can. You could have much of what you want today but you can never have all of what you want. I may be wrong but think it is the sharing bit that you can’t swallow, “cake and eat it”, it’s your politicians who have that, it is you the people who condone it. Nevertheless, good luck with your endeavours.
Have a closer look at the TA in the North, they are not alone.
It is true that one of us might be a senile old fool though.
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Here YS is with his horse glasses. A burglar? no sir , its people like u, GC strategy who was the burglar with your co partner Greece. It was YOU not letting T Cypriots move around comfortably in their home, hurrusting, sucking every bit of their human rights, economical and social rights and freedom by force and horror. It was because of your continuously harrastment, so many T. Cypriots were forced to sell their properties for almost free prices in so many areas as they were either blocked or people were afraid to go to these places. Can you just explain me why T Cypriots were not comfortable even to talk their language in G Cypriot majority areas? I tell you why, because thet were always subjected to hurrusment. National TV, specially from late 60 to 74 all programs were dominated by GC only to having 1 turkish film once a month other then the turkish version of the nightly news not to mention the Greek anthem at the closing of the nightly program. Where there were mixed communities, orthodox church was subsudising GC markets so they could sell cheeper almost to the costing price inorder to wipe out Turkish Cypriot owned markets and business. Almost all T Cypriots were force to evacuate and loose their jobs from both government and private sectors because of hurrastment, discriminationand continious distortion while YOU were warming up your bottom in YOUR comfort zone. You are trying to full the people saying that all was perfect in pink clouds and all of a sudden there was a division.Mana mou. YOU ARE THE BURGLAR. You get what you deserve. Not stollen but taken. Taken for their loss in the south and taken as a compensation for all their loss due to horrified, discriminated years . You have all the right to apply for your compensation and you should do so and then just go and play in your own sand box. In the mean time you are always more then well come to visit TRNC as a good neighbour.
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I am the source Y. I had experienced every sentences of what I had written.
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reidi i have been telling YS for some time now, they expect other people to fight their battles for them, ie the un or the eu now, now YS is quoting some eu draft resolution which states turkey must withdraw all their troops from the north and return property to the rightful owners by the end of this year, do you really think turkey will take any notice, i fear not. Yes we all like to talk about the past, when turkey invaded cyprus how many countries in the world came to to her aid, not one. The un let cyprus down then and sadly the un and the eu have let them down again. No country is going to put their lives on the line for cyprus’s cause, cyprus must resolute herself to the fact people will never ever ever get their land back from the north. Maybe if GC’s got off their arses and did something positive made the world sit and listen, fist to achieve this you would have to drag them out of their coffee bars as this seems to be the place where all the whinging takes place, certainly not on the streets. Finally YS yes we all know about cyprus’s history but you only want to know about the good bits and not the bad.Thank god your forefathers had guts, you and some of your people remind me of wee mooses sitting in a corner going squeak squeak, i wonder if we’ll get our land back this year squeak squeak, spineless the lot of you.
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Robert,
Unlike Yiannis I was a soldier in 74, and know well why there was no serious outside intervention, although I am not proud of the reason.
Yanni Yanni Yanni,
You are truly a sad and troubled individual.
I shall pray that your God will some day grant you peace.
Nevertheless, that doesn’t mean that you can shirk your responsibilities as President of my Fan Club.
I expect nothing less than instant abuse from you every time I post anything on the board.
It is not as if you have a daytime job or even have to think about what to write,”ratskates, (What’s one of those?) cheapskates, plonker, the English blood of my family yada yada yada”. You can even paste your last reply if it helps.
So no excuses, no sneaking off for a coffee, instant abuse every time those are the rules. Without your compulsion to this board you would have to get a life, so either take Robert’s advice to get off your arse or I don’t expect to see you wandering about your ancestral homeland anytime soon with or without as many writs as you can carry.
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Hi Pauline, Thanks for the good article!
Based on your case and the Mr. A verdict have real estate agents changed how they are selling properties? i.e. what about title insurance? What is the thinking today of prospective purchasers based on these developments?
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Yanni Yanni Yanni
You took 48 minutes, your response time is still poor, I don’t mean to sound harsh nor to discourage you, but you are not the only OTP (One Trick Pony) in the running for President of the Cheapratskates Appreciation Society. So please get your finger out, don’t move from your computer, and remember instant abuse every time, it is a simple instruction so do as you are told and follow the rules.
Thank you.
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Stelios,
You are such a smooth talker, I am convinced by your reasoning.
I will leave tomorrow and never return.
Well no just joking, not whilst my garden hose still works.
Be honest you just want to take over from Yanni as President of the Cheapratskates Appreciation Soceity. Well you know the rules so snap to it sunshine.
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Stelios
You did get the not leaving without a fight bit right though and you had better believe it. You think the Turks gave you hard time, you ain’t seen nothing yet.
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Yanni Yada Yada
Very good your response time is up but your insult value is down, please include more cheapratscate stuff in future.
You have forgotten you cannot, “come and get us”, because you are scared of the TA and we still have garden hoses, but don’t worry your politicians will sort it all out for you soon, then you will be rich.
Well done keep up the good work, speak in the morning.
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first i would like to apologise profusely to you YS, with the tirade of abuse and tantrums that comes from you i actually thought you were a wee girl, and not a wee boy.Do you have a job or do you just lie in your bed all day, living ofF the EU, last time i was in protaras just after cyprus joined the eu, i said to this restaurant owner why don’t you employ GC’S anymore all his staff were from the ukraine, his reply was if i employ locals i’m bound by the european working time directive, i have to pay minimum wage staff can’t work more than 8hrs a day and no more than a 48hr week, so i employ none eu workers and i have them working 16hrs a day 7 days a week for a lot less money, he said i’m here to make money, i asked about work permits and such, no problems he said with a big grin on his face, this is cyprus, meaning corrupt officials willing to turn a blind eye, no doubt the same officials who are letting in all these illegal immigrants, travel through your country, yes YS your government are certainly looking after your intersts.
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the way things are going in cyprus there wont be anything left open in protaras soon , poor economy negative growth for the first time, record unemployment, by the way i like what you said “we built cyprus’s economy”, what you really mean if it wasn’t for all those brits coming and holidaying and brits buying property over the last thirty odd years, you would still be a poor country, and who buys most of your spuds britain, always remember where your bread and butter comes from, if it wasn’t for the british and other tourists you would all still be on the streets begging for turkish figs.
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Pauline, my dear/dearess, you start your article …..
“I have just read that the RoC are to issue Certificates of Ownership to Greek Cypriot refugees occupying land belonging to Turkish Cypriots in the south. The legality of these certificates outside of the RoC is questionable as they seem to be similar to the TRNC title deeds passed on to ex-pats in the north.”
This has been proposed on a number of sites, ones where refugee/social housing has been constructed on tissy land. The scheme will only proceed following a successful negotiation with the current tissy owners of these sites.
Trust you will acknowledge the difference between this approach and the Northern Land Scam with its John Bull Printing Set kochans.
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Bill
That is reassuring to know – no I do not believe everything I read
in the papers but I do know that by writing the above, it will
illicit rsponses like yours and so it served its purpose. You and
I both know that politicians will ‘run with hare and hunt with the hound’ if it suits their purpose.
Robert
The Estate Agents seem to be focussing on the Russian market,
God help them if they try the same tricks on the Russians.
Bill, a “Certificate of Ownership” is not a title deed. It is worthless except in the RoC and therefore is similar to kocans in the TRNC except they are recognised in Turkey as well. You write, “the scheme will only proceed following a successful negotiation with the current tissy owner.” What would be issued in the case you quote would be a title deed. You are blinded by your prejudice, NCFP are only quoting what Cyprus Mail has published and what they are saying is that “those living on estates build on Turkish Cypriot land will receive an ownership certificate until the issue is resolved with the legal owners of the property.” Go and complain on their website if you feel they have got it wrong. The link is here http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/title-deeds-all-refugees/20100219
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ME, do you not feel sad that GC refugees who have made their homes on TC property are now legally classed as trespassers and are now in the same situation as the TC you mentioned in your comment? It must be gut wrenching for them, as Pauline pointed out in her article.
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Thomas, title insurance came and went several years ago when it was realised that it was a bit like one of those scams where the people putting in their annual £1000 paid for those insured who lost their property until the money was used up and the company went bust.
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Hi again Robert
Witgh regard to title insurance. The Gvt are making it
impossible for non Turkish Cypriots to buy pre 74 title,
what other type would be insurable.
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Yiannis
Why rejoice at someone elses troubles. Have you never heard of
karma.
Just be happy that one day you will get your property back.
If I had my way it would be tomorrow.
Gee, I leave for a short stay in beautiful Esentepe and look what happens…Yiannis up to his stale old tricks again.
Yiannis old son, I really wonder some times (well, most of the time really) about your IQ. Do you ever feel embarrassed at what you write? By god, I would be!
Here, in message 4485, is a guy called Cypriot who has written something so obviously experienced by him it defies belief that anyone of moderate intelligence could fail to appreciate it, and guess what?? Old Yiannis completely ignores it and spews out his stock standard line of blind, biassed, gainsaying nonsense…”you Sir know as much about Cyprus as I know about astronomy. You have come up with utter rubbish that does not warrant a serious answer other than to say , you are talking a load of crap. Now go back to your sources of information and ask them to explain why they have provided you with so much garbage !!”
You moron, Yiannis, he doesn’t need sources – HE WAS THERE!
And your last little sally, Yiannis, about “The EU , AS WELL AS THE ROYAL COURTS OF JUSTICE AGREE WITH ME !!” Agree with you about what, exactly, Yiannis? Your opinion of Cypriot?
Your rubbish would be laughable if it wasn’t so sad.
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Guys,
You need to know that YS has severe verbal diarrhea, and just as with diarrhea, every time he opens his mouth, it’s the same old s*it.
His diatribe and boring rhetoric have become tedious beyond a joke.
The more he talks, the less he says.
Ignore the sad old plonker.
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Yainnis said,
“I don’t have to work , I made my fortune , I’m retired now !!”
I know a man who could get you some nice cheap real estate in the TRNC to spend some of your fortune on mate, PTP & Kocan up front. Then you would be on your ancestral homeland at peace and without a care. Problem solved.
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VW said:
“ME, do you not feel sad that GC refugees who have made their homes on TC property are now legally classed as trespassers and are now in the same situation as the TC you mentioned in your comment? It must be gut wrenching for them, as Pauline pointed out in her article.
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well I certainly dont know how they feel about this but GENERALLY speaking the properties that GC got were not exactly ideal.
Generally, TCs were on the poor side of life. Most of the people who got were would rather be placed in refugee type homes rather than these. This gives you a pretty good idea.
There are in fact only a few hundred GC who were given these. I would imagine the only ppl who would like to keep the properties (not the buildings) are the ppl in mesa yitonia in limassol. These now should have a high value. Everyone else would be happy to get an RoC piece of land with similar value somewhere else.
In any case the RoC will compensate these “double” refugees enough to keep them quiet (here I go paying for other people once again)
As far as the TCs are concerned I doubt they will be moving anywhere anytime soon. It may mean they are unable to come to the RoC, something that would not make the RoC government happy. The RoC was and still is promoting communal intergration (especially AKEL).
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YS keeps using the same old reterick, cheapskates thieves etc,sounds like an old gramaphone with it’s needle stuck, believe it or not that’s a sign of early dimentia, people repeating the same things over and over, my advice YS should see a doctor for a cat scan soonest possible.GR why do you think cheapskate employers in the south employ cheap foreign labour for their busuinesses, because without them there would be no profit for them. Yes cyprus has made money, but a lot of it on the backs of cheap labour from none eu countries, but like YS you always avoid the question, because you don’t like the truth. You people remind me of hermit crabs sitting hiding in your shells, waiting for the day there is a solution, then you’ll all come scurrying from your hidey holes claiming victory, there’s a 7 letter word your full of it, Did you and YS join in with the students on there protest march against the britih radar base on mt olympus, at least up there no chance of getting shot by a british squaddie, why didn’t they target a border crossing instead , because the turkish have real bullits in their guns, i can just see that big yellow streak down the middle of you.
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