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1. Mastakounas Evaggelos

   25/02/2010 at 10:45 pm

   Are Tcs considered black?

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2. Malcolm Channing

   26/02/2010 at 4:03 am

   ME, an ethnic minority is a racial group within a community that can be discriminated against by another racial group which through their majority vote in elections can dominated the minority, e.g. 1963 in Cyprus.

   As for the case of Petros Kakoullis, I suppose it is only fair to let Rauf Denktaş have his say on the matter http://www.mfa.gov.tr/letter-sent-by-trnc-president-rauf-denktas-to-the-greek-cypriot-leader-glafkos-clerides_-12-november-1996.en.mfa

   As for the truth of the matter, I know the EU has issued a condemnation and President Klerides disagreed with Denktaş’ version of these killings as per http://18.85.3.140/news/cyprus/kygtpen/1996/96-10-25.kygtpen.html

   If such matters are still in the minds of GCs then it is no wonder that there is not a chance that the divide between them cannot presently be removed. Too many people, on both sides, might decide to take revenge for past events. Ironically, the success of the “Peace Talks” might actually mean the end of peace.

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3. polly

   26/02/2010 at 5:36 am

   Masta

   Of course not – you and the TCs are white in the winter
   and a lovely shade to tan in the summer.

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4. mastakounas evaggelos

   26/02/2010 at 11:59 am

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   MC,

   What are you saying ? That the killing of a man in the buffer zone by snipers in condoned if this man was some crazed turk-hater (which I dont know whether he was). R.D. effectively says that this man was attempting to cross over and kill 40K turkish soldiers by knife (!) so they had to shoot him.

   Did you miss the fact that the letter that prompted this 22 page (!)reponse you quote was in connection to the murder of 2 other people?

   Are you attempting to defend the killing of these people by a “minister” of your govrnment?

   Did you read up on the unarmed soldier that was shot and left to die wounded in the DMZ because the army warned they would shoot at UN medics trying to rescue him? I was there, it took 2.5 hrs for this 18 year old kid to die. He was exchanging a puppy for a bottle of whiskey. He was setup for the exchange and 2 proffesionals took him out with a sniper riffle. THEY WERE EXPECTING HIM.

   HAVE YOU LOST IT? or are you just trying to get more hits on your website ?

   RD said “no turks were killed because noone attempted to cross”
   pfffffffffff

   This is the man that set a kids playing ground on top of an ammunitions dump in the middle of town.

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5. Malcolm Channing

   26/02/2010 at 12:16 pm

   ME, I am quite capable of saying all the things that you are accusing me of if that is what I wanted to say, and you know it. What I wrote was:

   ME, an ethnic minority is a racial group within a community that can be discriminated against by another racial group which through their majority vote in elections can dominated the minority, e.g. 1963 in Cyprus.

   As for the case of Petros Kakoullis, I suppose it is only fair to let Rauf Denktaş have his say on the matter http://www.mfa.gov.tr/letter-sent-by-trnc-president-rauf-denktas-to-the-greek-cypriot-leader-glafkos-clerides_-12-november-1996.en.mfa

   As for the truth of the matter, I know the EU has issued a condemnation and President Klerides disagreed with Denktaş’ version of these killings as per http://18.85.3.140/news/cyprus/kygtpen/1996/96-10-25.kygtpen.html

   If such matters are still in the minds of GCs then it is no wonder that there is not a chance that the divide between them cannot presently be removed. Too many people, on both sides, might decide to take revenge for past events. Ironically, the success of the “Peace Talks” might actually mean the end of peace.

   You got a problem with any of that, ME?

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6. Mastakounas Evaggelos

   27/02/2010 at 11:47 am

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   MC,

   in that case your example refference was “unfortunate”. If you were trying to show attitudes on both sides there are much better examples.

   It’s easy for you to sit on the sidelines and say “the two communities bla bla bla” and pretend to be pontius pilate.

   All that needs to be done is to identify who is causing the problems and pressure them to give up their tactics.

   I am uncertain as to what more people expect from GC after they said they will give up 30% of their land to an 18% minority, ignore the past and share power in an unfavourable to GCs way.
   All the while the GCs were asked to pay for the cost of this solution, this why the A5 plan was rejected.

   These concetions have been made already.

   The only reason why things are not moving on can be found in Turkey.

   If anyone is reading up on the news you will see that the even IF the A5 plan had gone through, in all likelyhood, the Turksih government would be overthrown. Things are THAT difficut.

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7. Malcolm Channing

   27/02/2010 at 11:54 am

   Pontius Pilate did not sit on the sidelines, he did his best in a very difficult situation where he had the balance the demands of the Romans, the Jews and the Christians.

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8. polly

   27/02/2010 at 12:28 pm

   And then he washed his hands of the whole mess – guess he had more
   chance of getting that camel through the eye of a needle than a rich man has in entering the Kingdom of Heaven. Well it is Sunday
   tomorrow. And Masta can you tell me did the Greeks write the Bible?

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9. Mastakounas Evaggelos

   27/02/2010 at 12:57 pm

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   MC

   and he screwed up, just like you are screwing up. Can you really expect to understand the issue when you are just a visitor?

   face it, you are attempting to seem neutral when you are already drinking and eating with one side.

   why did you shrink my earlier post?

   polly,
   as far as I know the earliest copies found are written in ancient greek (byzintine).

   but there well be earlier versions that were not found. probably in arameic. like the black sea scrolls…

   and you are trying to say…what?

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10. Malcolm Channing

    27/02/2010 at 1:31 pm

    Aaah, ME, we are all just visitors. Pilate in fact is a much misunderstood figure in the bible. Some theologians believe that when he asked the Jews whether he should release Christ the Saviour or Barabus the Zealot he was being ironic because Barabus means “son of the father,” and what Pilot was asking is what aspect of Christ did the Jews disagree with; the saviour or the revolutionary?

    What shrunk post?

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11. polly

    27/02/2010 at 1:43 pm

    Masta

    You referred to the excerpt from the scriptures as a greek saying
    in an earlier post. Not nit picking just marrying two threads.

    Who we eat and drink with is entirely our choice. You know
    when I was five I had a little friend who said ‘If you are her friend you cannot be mine’ It is permissable to childish at
    five, but not now surely.

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12. Mastakounas Evaggelos

    27/02/2010 at 7:03 pm

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    polly,

    you are the queen of misdirection.

    clearly, if you choose to live in one of the 2 parts and hold assets there it will affect the way you think.

    of the 5K or so foreigners living in the north, how many think the GCs have the right to return? how many think the GCs have justice on their side.

    the answer if ofcourse very few if any.

    so pls dont tell me you are unbiased. take your position like everyone else.

    MC the problem is not if PP was misdirected. the reason why he is now infamous is because he chose to let a common criminal walk and let a clearly harmless man to go to the cross.

    He did this because it suited him and his empire to do so.

    He was a man with no scruples.

    go on take PPs side, like you dont have enough indefencible to defend…

    my posts are auto-hidden, your doing I suppose.

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13. Malcolm Channing

    27/02/2010 at 7:31 pm

    No, I’m not auto-hiding your posts. I wish there was such a facility, but not for your posts, but there isn’t.

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14. polly

    28/02/2010 at 4:54 am

    Masta

    The Queen of misdirection – thank you.

    You talk as if the reason the GCs cannot return is our fault.
    When I tell you I wish that we could ALL live together in harmony, I guess you will not believe me – but I do.

    My assets here are enough money to live on – nothing more.

    I do have assets in the south, I did own a house there for 10 years
    and lived there permanently for five years. I like it here because
    it reminds of the south in the mid 80′s. The reason I left was
    because of the influx of eastern europeans – the whole atmosphere
    and ambiance changed then. I never consider anywhere permanent
    and if the fancy takes me, I shall move on. I enjoy living here,
    the people are similar to GCs, I never sede the army personnel
    other than when I drive past, I get no feeling of being in an
    occupied country.

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15. polly

    28/02/2010 at 5:20 am

    Yiannis

    I have been nominated at the queen of misdirection on another
    comment page. I nominate you as the King of misdirection, note I give you a capital letter K and me a small q, I know my place.

    Sunday lunch with your fanily today? Maybe followed by a nice
    claret? See, I can be nice.

    No punch line (this time!!!!)

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